tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861963957673985204.post8752977605859596088..comments2023-06-04T07:13:45.932-04:00Comments on Issues of Humanity: The Blurred Lines Debate and Miley CyrusAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17109902892532245070noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861963957673985204.post-82281718283577457912013-10-11T23:28:54.263-04:002013-10-11T23:28:54.263-04:00You need an editor.
That being said, this song di...You need an editor.<br /><br />That being said, this song disgusts me on a very visceral level for most of the reasons you addressed. The video certainly doesn't help it, however, and that brings in some other critiques I think you could touch on.<br />The director of the video, a woman, apparently viewed the video as subversive. She directed the women to openly mock the singer, to be in on the "joke."<br />Robin Thicke.... disagrees with that.<br /><br />As for Miley Cyrus, I don't know how much of a choice she had for that mashup. Record labels tend to mandate that kind of thing, and the performers are forced to agree.... or at least persuaded to agree because of contractual reasons. So I'm not sure how much of a say she had in the VMA performance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861963957673985204.post-44870857098607487462013-10-10T21:43:59.565-04:002013-10-10T21:43:59.565-04:00Ok I'm going to try to address everything you&...Ok I'm going to try to address everything you've said in order. Let me start by saying I really appreciate your honesty and open opinion.<br />So: starting with your first point yes humans are "animals" however we, as humans, refer to animals as distinct from humans in that thus far no animal is of the same capacity as humans (as far as we know). Furthermore, it is commonly known that animals are considered inferior to humans. Now, I also acknowledged that referring to someone as an animal can have sexual undertones, but it is still at the same time removing personhood from them. Animals are supposed to be wild not humans. My point still stands.<br />As far as her filling her sexual appetite and you distinguishing that he says "let me..." I don't see how that makes much of a difference at all. He still is inviting that he is the one who is liberating her. She cannot do it herself. Her sexual appetite though she is apparently an animal is not something she can have without him. I'd also like to not that 'liberating' a person is not the same as just asking to be with them sexually.<br />As far as the line I seem to be missing in the second verse...first of all I can't find it. Secondly I don't see "go ahead get at me" as leaving it all up to the woman. It sounds very much like a demand at that point to me. <br />Regarding her sexually touching him as I said it sounds ridiculous out of context. However, as stated and shown in the context of the song there are blurred lines. Robin Thicke himself says, “And then there’s the other side of it which is the blurred lines between a good girl and a bad girl, and even very good girls all have little bad sides to them.” So a 'good girl' hugging, not wanting sex and a 'bad girl' getting drunk touching, dancing sexily. Mixed signals about consent...blurred lines. <br />I'm also going to take this moment to point out that I think it is perfectly reasonable that if you were to touch a man and decide that you don't want to have sex with him or don't wish to continue further you are under no obligation to, which to me you seem to be implying. I'm also going to note that your assumption that he wants sex does not mean that you can are entitled to behave in degrading ways. As you said it is an assumption and may very well be incorrect. The person may only want to flirt.<br />I can see now that I mistyped and put Thicke instead of T.I. for the third verse. I will fix that accordingly. However, I don't see any of the rest of your points on that verse as valid. He doesn't really ask for permission does he? He says to hit him up - I would assume call. Then continues to say that he wouldn't let her pass him by. He calls for the 'salute' however she doesn't respond. And then in the next chorus she seems to have been given something and then magically ends up with the man. Sounds oddly like drugging/rape to me. At the very least coercion. That does not constitute consent. In addition to all of this we can see from the beginning of the song that she is "blasted" in other words drunk.<br />As for the last part of your comment..about fashion, again I reiterate that yes you can wear sexy clothes for multiple purposes one of which is to receive sexual attention. However that is not an excuse to degrade women to such a point as to think you can 'take her' or in any way implies that she 'wants it'. So many women wear clothes to feel sexy but not to have sex with someone.<br />I believe I have already addressed your bit about the song not being about consent. Again I appreciate your honesty. I don't know if any of my arguments have convinced you but I hope I have clarified my position at the very least.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17109902892532245070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861963957673985204.post-77560305895692750062013-10-10T20:38:41.224-04:002013-10-10T20:38:41.224-04:00First off this has been grating my nerves Humans a...First off this has been grating my nerves Humans are animals (we are in the animalia kingdom) and in most conversations about sex, we used the term animals alot. For example when we say "he/she is an animal in bed" that suppose to a compliment. Also he said "Let me."..meaning she has the option to say no him. However he talking about her taking advantage of her sexual appetite so unless she's a lesbian he only asking can he be the one she does it with. Now here's your biggest crime you skip "go ahead and get at me" when you discussed the second verse. That is a very important line as it clearly means everything is left up to the woman. And ask this question to yourself when guy is talking about a girl grabbing him sexually doesn't he mean she grabbing his dick/ass, I don't know about you but I don't touch a man's dick in a platonic fashion (When a guy grabbed my ass in a club I assume he wanted sex too). Then let's get into your other crime here when attribute T.I.'s verse as if it Robin Thicke said it. He didn't in fact it another guy speaking. However crude his language is he still asks for permission three times ( a salute is a form of permission) and that line particularly is just a crude way of saying he has big dick. Overall none the things he describe are not going happen until the girl gives him the salute to proceed. In Thicke's part of the song the girl must initiate further contact. As for your comment on clothing while this has been excuse used by rapists (cause the issue with them is they don't know how to perceive normal social cues and behavior properly), I think it needs to be said that women do dress provocatively for attention and are highly aware what draws others to certain parts of our body (I wear low cut tops because I feel sexy AND because I am aware it would make males stare at my cleavage). Fashion/clothing is highly complex situation there is why there is saying that fashion is not for comfort. I am not feminists as there are part of the third wave feminist movement I find highly problematic but I against rape, violence against people in general (which the song never says anything violent in the first place imo), consent is everything (however Blurred Lines isn't even about Blurred Lines of consent cause as many pointed out there is no such thing) but those last 3 things have nothing to do with the song. I appreciate your commentary even though I find most of it extremely flawed as I know many women who don't mind being spoken to like the males speak in this song speak to the female because this song is not about every woman, its about one kind of woman. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com